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Dave Ferguson
I love this discussion........
As I have said and has been said by others on the list........the reason everyone loves UNIX control systems IMHO is that they have spent the time to know how to "tweak" it to be totally (?) stable but they will not devote the same time and attention to lowly NT.
I have systems running 24/7 that have never been rebooted. I also spent a large amount of time setting things up front. The bad thing is I am basically a full time IT person now because I have like 25 systems and 150 PC's out there and the IT people are not used to 24/7 response times. By this I mean, we still have hardware
crashes because of a management decision (again IMHO) to not by "hardened" hardware, but those are rare.
I was totally against control via NT but after learning it as well as I knew UNIX, I now have little to no problems.
I control the machines via user profiles so that someone cannot play solitair etc. and the interface is locked down to just running my
control software, and we actually "tested" things and tweaked them just like I had to do the first time with UNIX and we devoted the time to learn the stuff. I am now an MCSE only because I like that kind of cheap personal gratification to see how I am doing (only for myself). We also ghosted the machines to network drives so that any hardware issues and we can restore the machines in like 6 minutes.
It made me realize that different does not mean "bad" it only means different. In todays world market you better be able to accept change and other opinions or you are doomed to fail............
Adapt or dye..........and oh by the way, the Internet is not going away and why if I had to sum it up isn't it going away ?
Because I do not care that I have connected to a Unix, NT, Linux, Mainframe etc system to get my information and that it took 25 hops through routers all over the world..........I only care that I get my INFORMATION..........that is the bottom line. Before it is done, like it or not........the internet browser will be the control system of use.
I already have systems running that just gather info and spit it out to web pages for control and diagnostic information........get used to it. I had spoken at the ISA show numerous times 5 years and more ago about this "revolution" and people laughed at the time but look around.............
Computers were designed to make things easier, they are just a tool, like a hammer. If you give a hammer to me and you give one to my friend who is a Master Carpenter, I will build a stick house
and he will build a work of art. You must know how to use your tools.......
I better get off my soap box.........
Dave Ferguson
Blandin Paper Company
UPM-Kymmene
DAVCO Automation
As I have said and has been said by others on the list........the reason everyone loves UNIX control systems IMHO is that they have spent the time to know how to "tweak" it to be totally (?) stable but they will not devote the same time and attention to lowly NT.
I have systems running 24/7 that have never been rebooted. I also spent a large amount of time setting things up front. The bad thing is I am basically a full time IT person now because I have like 25 systems and 150 PC's out there and the IT people are not used to 24/7 response times. By this I mean, we still have hardware
crashes because of a management decision (again IMHO) to not by "hardened" hardware, but those are rare.
I was totally against control via NT but after learning it as well as I knew UNIX, I now have little to no problems.
I control the machines via user profiles so that someone cannot play solitair etc. and the interface is locked down to just running my
control software, and we actually "tested" things and tweaked them just like I had to do the first time with UNIX and we devoted the time to learn the stuff. I am now an MCSE only because I like that kind of cheap personal gratification to see how I am doing (only for myself). We also ghosted the machines to network drives so that any hardware issues and we can restore the machines in like 6 minutes.
It made me realize that different does not mean "bad" it only means different. In todays world market you better be able to accept change and other opinions or you are doomed to fail............
Adapt or dye..........and oh by the way, the Internet is not going away and why if I had to sum it up isn't it going away ?
Because I do not care that I have connected to a Unix, NT, Linux, Mainframe etc system to get my information and that it took 25 hops through routers all over the world..........I only care that I get my INFORMATION..........that is the bottom line. Before it is done, like it or not........the internet browser will be the control system of use.
I already have systems running that just gather info and spit it out to web pages for control and diagnostic information........get used to it. I had spoken at the ISA show numerous times 5 years and more ago about this "revolution" and people laughed at the time but look around.............
Computers were designed to make things easier, they are just a tool, like a hammer. If you give a hammer to me and you give one to my friend who is a Master Carpenter, I will build a stick house
and he will build a work of art. You must know how to use your tools.......
I better get off my soap box.........
Dave Ferguson
Blandin Paper Company
UPM-Kymmene
DAVCO Automation